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Mystery, Matador, & Lovedrop Start Project Miami by Mystery by Mystery
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Program Review for Mystery by David C., Las Vegas Workshop by Blitz
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Program Review for Mystery by Chiguy, Philadelphia Bootcamp by Blitz
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Program Review for Mystery by Larry V., Chicago Bootcamp by Blitz
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Program Review for Mystery by Orion Hughes, Bootcamp by Blitz
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Program Review for Mystery by Envy, Los Angeles Workshop by Blitz
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Program Review for Mystery by Gish, Chicago Bootcamp by Blitz
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Program Review for Mystery by daringnyc, Sex Majic Workshop, Toronto by Blitz
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Program Review for Mystery by Ox, Las Vegas Bootcamp by Blitz
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Program Review for Mystery by JD, Chicago Bootcamp by Blitz
Well, it exists – glorious Project Miami… a 5400 square foot mansion in Coconut Grove, Florida. With South Beach only a short drive away, we are enjoying the winter season. Lovedrop just enjoyed an asian porn star, and Matador had five girls last week. Women, wine, and song. Literally.
We’re doing some bootcamps this year. These bootcamps, sold at venusianarts.net, are the only bootcamps that I’m currently endorsing. I’m sure you have a lot of questions regarding where I’ve been, what’s up with my company, and so on. Unfortunately, for legal reasons, I cannot yet comment on what is happening with MM Inc. Lovedrop, who lives in Project Miami, will make a statement very soon just as soon as we are able to post more.
I am having a blast. I am working quite a bit. I’m traveling a lot. The book that I wrote “The Mystery Method” hits bookstores on February 8th, I’ll be doing some press on that and some book signings (please come down.) Thanks to everyone for your support during this critical time.
Love, Mystery
[Editor: This testimonial was written by a student of Mystery's, about an experience that he had on a live program with Mystery. At the time, Mystery's company was called "The Mystery Method" -- even when he was teaching it by himself in Canada -- and he also referred to his method by that same name. And so you can see that this student's original writing references that name (Mystery Method). However, Venusian Arts is a new company, unaffiliated with the old Mystery Method corp. Venusian Arts features Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop, and Venusian Arts does not teach the mystery method. It has developed and teaches new and improved seduction methodology. We want to make it clear that the below testimonial is not a Venusian Arts testimonial. But it is a real and historical student testimonial, written by a student who studied and trained with Mystery in the field. The student owns the copyright to this testimonial and it is reprinted here with permission.]
Workshop (nighttime)
1. Workshop (nighttime) overall: excellent
2. The amount of personal attention at the workshop: excellent
3. The quality of personal attention at the workshop: excellent
First night
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Instructor: Mystery Time spent: 40 minutes
Overall rating: Good
Notes: focused on finding good sets, rather than just any sets. I didn't
open at all.
Instructor: Matador Time spent: 60 minutes
Overall rating: Excellent
Notes: I was awed by his demo.
Instructor: Lovedrop Time spent: 2 hours
Overall rating: Excellent
Notes: Stayed on the street, got me to open numerous targets, some moving.
Fun and educational.
Second night
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Instructors: Sundown, Lovedrop, Mystery & Matador
Time spent: 4 hours
Overall rating: All Excellent
Notes: Opened 12 times. Had an excellent time, learned a lot. (With matador's
aid) got to C1.
Third night
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Instructor: Hawaii Time spent: 1 hour
Overall Rating: Excellent
Notes: Aided my negs. Advanced all aspects of the game
Instructor: Mystery Time spent: 10 minutes
Overall Rating: Excellent
Notes: Made me approach a 4 set with 3 large black guys. No fear… I
don't know how I did it.
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Seminar
1. The content of the information taught at the seminar: Excellent
2. The teaching of the information taught at the seminar: Excellent
3. The seminar (daytime) overall: Excellent
4. The logistics and organization of the weekend itself: Good
5. The logistics and organization of the pre-weekend process: Good
6. Youur experience overall: Excellent
Did you feel that everything you wanted to learn about in the seminar was
coverd? What was most useful/what would you like to see included.
Yes. Everything was covered.
Did you feel that everything you wanted to learn about in the workshop was
covered? What was most useful / what would you like to see included/
Yes. Everything was covered. I wouldn't add anything but time. Make the
workshop a whole week long.
What else could we provide you in the future to support and
further enhance your learning?
I will need to keep getting pushed to go out. I'll be trying, but I'm
worried about falling off the wagon.
How did you hear about us?
Maclean's magazine in Canada. (Article about Style and his new book)
What were the key reasons that led you to sign up for a live program.
My game sucked. I read the article …
What else can we do to improve the program?
More nights. (The daytime program could be stretched, or just add more
nights.) Mystery would not even need to be there.
Mystery‘s most amazing demonstration was his last set of the night. He spotted a birthday party group, found the perfect angle at which to enter, and after entertaining the entire group with a couple of routines, found himself on the couch right next to his target! He is going one-on-one with her, fascinating her with his many routines, and getting good kino and other IOIs My friend and I are watching all of this from a few feet away. The cool thing is that Mystery had pointed this girl out as the girl he wanted earlier in the night. She is definitely hot, almost an HB9. A guy cockblock enters later, and Mystery enlists my help to get rid of him. I happily obliged.
Soon, the place is closing up, and Mystery goes for the number close. The birthday girl, who I actually talked to earlier and who is pretty drunk by now, tries to wreck the whole thing. She tries to pull the target away (Mystery didn’t get an opportunity to disarm this obstacle earlier), but it doesn’t matter. It’s clear that the target is really into Mystery, and she was not going to be simply pulled away by her friend. Her friend tries to take the pen away from her as she is writing her number, but she is unsuccessful Eventually, the friend manages to pull the target some distance away from Mystery, and you can hear Mystery saying, "Who’s in control.who’s in charge?" This simple challenge motivates the girl to move back towards him, but her friend is too strong, and Mystery walks out of the room after her. Mystery tells the target that he will call her at 2 pm the next day, and the friend says, "I’ll be there." None of this interference from the obstacle matters. It was an impressive display. StripperS! We headed to a strip club next. Mystery’s girlfriend actually works at the place. He had some fun with the waitresses, totally breaking their frames and their programs. He went into an analysis of how to work strip clubs, and it’s absolutely brilliant stuff. Mystery has had several stripper girlfriends, and he knows more about how to work strip clubs than anyone else I know. As he explained his strategies, I see the beautiful logic of it all. Although I rarely go to strip clubs, it’s definitely golden advice for when I do decide to hit one later. Mystery also taught up mnemonics and the money bag routines – all good stuff. Workshop Mystery got two numbers tonight. He closed an HB9 near the bar. It was pretty amazing, because he simply blasted through her resistance. At first, when he went for the close, she said, "Well, you can meet me here next Saturday." Mystery told her, ‘No, that’s not what we’re going to do." He went on to tell her that he will meet up with her soon, and that he will call her the next day. She must have been pretty shocked at this response, and went silent. He got the number soon afterwards, and she was mouthing "Tomorrow" to him as he was walking away. Great stuff!
About me: I’m 30, been in the game about a year doing mostly DYD w/o much success; found out about the other people in seduction and decided to take the MM workshop in Philly on Nov. 12-14.
Day 1, Friday: I arrive to the hotel room where we would have the seminar. I meet Savoy who was there as an instructor. There were 6 other guys in the seminar, but only 4 of us did the in-field workshop. Mys talked a lot about his structure, the A-C-S stages and how the game is played. We didn’t go into too much material — this day was more about the TMM structure.
That night we went to Finnegan’s Wake, a two-level bar with mostly 20-somethings. After a while, I started opening my own sets with varying success. I got blown out a couple times but I also stayed in some over 10 minutes which was good for me, esp. since it was just day 1.
Day 2, Saturday: We meet in the hotel again and go over more of TMM, this time learning more material to fill in the structure. We talk about when to use kino, escalating through the stages, etc. Savoy did a good job teaching part of the workshop this day, also, mainly about dates and such.
That night we went to old town. One of the guys had opened a seated two set so I went in and winged. The girls swapped and the next thing I know, I’ve got a pretty cute blond girl cuddling against me and there’s lots of kino going on. I keep my relaxed BL and let her come into me. I break out my digital camera and worked the digital photo routine that Mys had taught us — it works! Savoy sits down and asks if I want to continue with this set or try some others. I wish I would have tried some other sets, but I was having fun. I left the girls for a bit but as the bar was closing we found them again and bounced to an after-hours joint where my girl got drunk and my night ended. Ah well — good experience.
Day 3 Today we met at the house of one of the guys in the workshop. We recapped what we’d learned so far and some more light bulbs turned on. We talked about how to AMOG, some more routines, and finished with identities. We went out again in old town, but it was hard finding sets. It was just a dead night on town, but I still got in some practice.
The workshop was definitely worth it. I’m more motivated now, but it was also very helpful to see the structure of how the game is supposed to be played. Before I was just doing C&F and trying stuff I read on mASF but it was all out of place and nothing flowed properly. Now I actually have something useful to practice. Seeing and working with Mystery and Savoy helped, of course, because they fixed me in set or critiqued me afterward. I would definitely recommend this to anyone who feels ‘lost’ or wants to step up their game. I saw the light on many occasions and can now feel myself slowly improving on my way to becoming a solid PUA!
Being no stranger to the seduction community, I've been using SS since late 2002, with some mixed results.
Earlier this year there was the NYTimes article written about RJ that was promoted on the SS list, but upon reading the article, it was more about a fellow named Mystery, then RJ. At this same time, top students on the SS were kicked off and whatever they posted, and I used in the field, worked.
Gee, there must be more to this.
So began searching around more on the web and discovered mASF and Thundercats site and began reading the postings from Mystery and his archive. Went out into the field, mainly bars and clubs, and got better results using his tactics. Also a friend who got me into the seduction community just came back from the Mystery bootcamp and said I had to go.
So, I called Savoy, who was very easy to do business with, and reserved my spot. Only downside was not knowing what hotel it would be at, until a week before the bootcamp. I made my reservation for the bootcamp back in late September.
Traveled by plane/train to the hotel in Chicago and in the meantime began to think, what have I gotten myself into? I can't believe I've paid x amount of dollars to do this. I wonder if the other guys who signed up for this are going to be complete nerds, or what?
I arrived for the first day and metup with the other guys, while waiting for Mystery. Turns out these guys are just like me, who are mostly successful in most areas of their lives, but want more, or what to make major improvements with women.
Enter Mystery. He came out of the elevator, almost like a scene from a movie, and instantly we were all sucked into his reality. It was one of the most bizarre feelings I've ever felt in my entire life. He quickly moved to introduce himself and make us feel comfortable.
Class began with him talking about basics and structure behind what he does and. He gave good, common examples that we could all relate to. He also went into the social makeup of how we live, how we used to live, and how our brains are wired. He then started into the M3 Model, which simply explains what he does and how to do it in a linear way.
We ate dinner around 8pm, rested for an hour, and drove off to downtown Chicago. During the drive, Mystery would give a very cool pep talk, almost like a briefing of what to expect. We hit the club, and instantly Mystery opened two HBs, he used openers, incredibly body language, and props to gain incredible rapport. Later he left that set, opened two other HBs, and merged both sets together successfully. While this was going on, the guest instructor pushed students into mix sets to get more experience. I've open sets before in the past, but I was mainly crashing and burning that night for experience, and also ended up getting slapped by an HB, who I grabbed too hard to open. By the end of the night, Mystery # closed an HB and pulled another HB back to his hotel room.
Day Two: Mystery gave a debriefing of the night before and we also learned from a student, who went out to breakfast with him that morning, that he #closed the waitress using push/pull tactics. Mystery explained more of his tactics, like negs, qualifying/disqualifying, routines, body language, and kino. I thought I had a good understanding of his material, but I felt my brain exploding trying to get all of it in, plus being tired from the night before.
We did dinner again, got a disco nap, met the next guess instructor and did it all over again. This time we hit a three story techo club in the downtown area. The music was loud and lots of flashing lights, but the students were going into sets now with more confidence and more material, along with instant feedback from instructors. One of the students, opened a HB involved in a bacheloreet party, got her buying temp up, while competing with another guy. Her friends took here away, but Mystery seemed impressed with the results. Other students were opening sets, and there was the challenge of language, alot of the people in this club were either Russian or Polish. I opened mostly mixed sets and was able to stay in set longer than I was ever before and was able to calibrate better than before. Mystery said that his mystery method is not fullproof though. He opened a mixed set of two Paris Hilton lookalikes along with their borefriend. He instantly blew him out and was working up kino, when the HBs would break it off. He would start all over again and work up to kino and they would break it off again. It was odd, but still impressive, and even he admitted that nothing is foolproof. We later hit another club, more of a hip-hop environment, and it was 4am, and the students were tired. Not Mystery, he opened the bartender, and was making out with her in less then 10 minutes and #closed her.
The last and final day, covered grounding and identity, and three rock stars and a journalist sat in on the seminar and gave ideas and feedback, which was great. We also did a debriefing of the previous night, talk more about tactics. During the lecture, I wrote down so many questions I wanted to ask, but we just didn't have time, because there is so much material.
Again, we went out to eat, where Mystery again #closed the waitress. At the same time, he was working HBs he had #closed the last few days over the phone, trying to arrange for them to meetup with him. We took disco naps again, and then took off for Rush St in Chicago. Again in the car ride, Mystery gave us a pep talk. First club we hit was like another hip-hop club that was packed with Bears football fans. I opened a two set that claimed they were lesbians lovers, and opened other sets. One of the students, #closed. Mystery again opened two HBs, and was doing everything he normally does, but didn't get anywhere with them. The HBs were more interested in the pro. sports players coming in and that was our que to leave. We hit a few more bars in the area. Another student pulled an HB away from her borefriend and Mystery went into set with him to help. One of the last sets I did was open two dudes and tried to merge in into a three set. Opening the two dudes was no problem, but when it came to the merge, didn't go well at all. Mystery gave me pointers and then he opened a couple at the bar, and within 10 minutes was making out with girl. Impressive. With dawn a few hours away, we left Rush St, and Mystery brought back another HB to his hotel that he #closed the night before. We all said our goodbys and that that was the end of the bootcamp.
All in all, I'm still in disbelief over what I've just experienced, but very happy. Mystery and his guess instructors are very cool and very professional with the students, offering many pointers and tips. On the downside, we cover so much material and talked over the night before, so there isn't alot of time to answer all of the questions generated.
But now the real challenge lies with me and taking the material, what I've learned, and using it successfully.
[Editor: This testimonial was written by a student of Mystery's, about an experience that he had on a live program with Mystery. At the time, Mystery's company was called "The Mystery Method" -- even when he was teaching it by himself in Canada -- and he also referred to his method by that same name. And so you can see that this student's original writing references that name (Mystery Method). However, Venusian Arts is a new company, unaffiliated with the old Mystery Method corp. Venusian Arts features Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop, and Venusian Arts does not teach the mystery method. It has developed and teaches new and improved seduction methodology. We want to make it clear that the below testimonial is not a Venusian Arts testimonial. But it is a real and historical student testimonial, written by a student who studied and trained with Mystery in the field. The student owns the copyright to this testimonial and it is reprinted here with permission.]
Hi, I attended Mystery's Boot Camp and it was worth the money I paid for it.
Just getting a good diagnosis of what I have been doing wrong all these years, is well worth the cost. It isnt that there's something wrong with me, or my hair is too short or too long, it isn't that I need to be myself more, it isn't that I have been trying too hard. That's a relief to really know for sure!
The instructors woudl watch what I was doing wrong, tell me about it, then demostrate how to handle the same girl I just bombed on. The feedback was nothing but practical, and it makes perfect sense. Now it seems obvious, but I probably would not have ever figured it out by myself. None of my friends would have ever figured it out either, and none of my friends are such experts.
In class, Mystery keeps things moving. He does not waste alot of time doing round-table introductions. Some of the stronger students did attempt to help teach the class, as you might expect, but there was not alot of that. Mystery kept the pace going! So much good information, that mostly all of the students just took voluminous notes and paid attention the whole time, and tried not to miss anything. Better take alot of notes if you attend – start scrawling right off the bat!
Mystery and the assistant instructors all seem to care personally about each of our success. If not, then at least all the instructors surely care alot about the quality of the instruction. Feedback from Mystery is usually no joke, its like its a life and death matter. Actually, dating is about genetic survival. Once, Mystery told me after I bombed a set of girls: "Dude, you were DEAD. You blew it like this… At least you went up to them but you cannot do that…!" This is serious business to the students and Mystery treats it that way. He seems to measure each second of instruction for quality, the other instructors as well, they are all very effective teachers.
Once, during the field work, Mystery demonstrated how to handle a chick that I had been doing great with, getting good KINO. You know how you can tell the moment you start losing a girl? Well, after things going great for 20 minutes or so, I fizzled with her. Mystery also sensed that I had lost her just as I sensed it and he stepped in just a few moments after things fizzled out (to make a long story short), and he had this girl BEGGING him to call her, BEGGING him not to leave, ready to eat out of his hand. It stung, but this isnt about getting a girl to me anymore, its about getting the skill now.
My style as of now is Mystery's Method. It would be absurd to rely primarily any other approach. There is alot of common sense built into it. Not to give too much away, but one thing about it is that it is based around the idea of PRACTICE. The idea is that if you arent good, you can PRACTICE and get better. Rather than stay home and get your head together, if your head isnt together, you go out and practice without your head together. When you get rid of ideas that dont make sense, like just being yourself, and you get the real practical truth from someone who knows exactly what is going on, it makes a real difference.
Just knowing theres nothing inherently wrong with me – I was just doing a few obvious bad things for years without realizing it – should have changed me from a 5 to a 7 overnight.
Suppose you had to choose between a month vacation in Hawaii or taking this boot camp (not that it costs near that much as of today). How would you like to be on the beach in Hawaii seeing all the chicks in bikinis and being able to do absolutlely nothing to get one of them to accompany you back to the Hotel? You would probably feel like SHIT, the entire time. It would be more fun to be shut in a room for a month WITH a hot chick. So, this is money well spent!!!
[Editor: This testimonial was written by a student of Mystery's, about an experience that he had on a live program with Mystery. At the time, Mystery's company was called "The Mystery Method" -- even when he was teaching it by himself in Canada -- and he also referred to his method by that same name. And so you can see that this student's original writing references that name (Mystery Method). However, Venusian Arts is a new company, unaffiliated with the old Mystery Method corp. Venusian Arts features Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop, and Venusian Arts does not teach the mystery method. It has developed and teaches new and improved seduction methodology. We want to make it clear that the below testimonial is not a Venusian Arts testimonial. But it is a real and historical student testimonial, written by a student who studied and trained with Mystery in the field. The student owns the copyright to this testimonial and it is reprinted here with permission.]
Hey guys, just got back from the MM workshop in LA. KICKED ASS. 5/5, 10/10,
A+, however you want to rate it.
Brief summary:
Where I was in my game: I had pulled 1 girl in 3 months of DYD/RSD typegame.
So I kind of knew what I was doing but really didn't. Felt confident
approaching already (500 approaches), but sucked with my follow-through.
Where Mystery, Style, Lovedrop, and Savoyre got me: I finished the workshop
on Sunday night, and drove for 2 hours getting in to Santa Barbara at 2am.
2am after two nights of sleep dep and I still went out to a 24hr restaurant
down the street from my house and #closed a girl I, realistically, couldn't
have closed just 3 days earlier. again 5/5. 10/10. A plus.
Day 1: Structure/Theory
8 random guys (1 of them me) all got together in the PH mansion, then
mystery came out and kind of removed the bad vibe by getting to know each of
us one on one. After that he gives us a short bio to show where he is coming
from. This part left me fascinated and would easily make money routine.
Some sort of break around here, then he showed the MM structure, and got us
to become congruent with it by looking into our past relationships and
seeing that is exists everywhere. (kind of Zen) He also shows us the
different mistakes that people make when attracting women, and why it is
easier to attract a girl in a group than a lone girl. Basically if the group
isn't there you can't integrate into her group, making meet-ups harder. Kind
tricking everyone into viewing a cold approach as a social circle meet.
Diner time, we get back and go into some very basic material. Not enough to
get me doing MM style cold-approaches on my own.
Night 1:
I'm only 20, but Mystery gets me into The Standard and I get to see him run
a 25 minute single girl set. She's kissing him in like 15 minutes through
kino escalation — gradually getting her more and more comfortable with
physical contact.
That actually sucked for me because I totally thought I should be listening
to the material at that time. Big mistake, I wish I could rerun that night.
Mystery leaves for saddle ranch after that, and I'm not old enough to get in
so I stay at Standard waiting for TD to show up.
Savoyre and a girl he came with push me into like 5 sets but I can't hold
them.
Day 2: Content
Lovedrop starts off showing us how to open. And a pretty cool trick of doing
a double take before running the opener, kind of showing you didn't walk up
with the intension but just kinda popped into your head.
Mystery spent the rest of day going over all the different content pieces
you can plop into the different phases of the courtship.
Night 2:
This was way better for me than the first night, as soon as I walk into the
club, I sit down with the first girl I see and run a 30 min heavy kino set
that ended up getting an isolation. Fucking awesome. I bail on that girl to
get Mystery's opinion of how it went. Then go open a 5 set with Style's girl
as an aid. FUCKING AWESOME. I've never had a 5 girl set open so easy. Ran
that 30 min, walked my target over to Style who ran some of the tightest
game I have ever seen right in front of me. Perfect.
At this point TD came and pushed me into like 9 sets straight just trying to
get me to be cool and talk to them the same way that I talk to him. I think
this helped my game the most, because up to that point I was being fake with
them.
This night alone was worth the whole price ($1250 as I missed the
lastnight).
Day 3: Bringing it all together
Mystery started off fielding some questions. It was really cool to see the
quality of questions go from, as Mystery put it, "how do I get laid?" to
"when a two-set turns into a three-set, what do I do?". It really showed the
change that happened to all the attendees.
Mystery then showed us his grounding and vulnerability routines. I can't
speak for the other guys there, but they worked on me.
Mystery worked with all of us on developing identities, mostly focusing on
what the average girl will understand and think cool – a big eye opener.
Style then came out and gave us all fashion advice… money fashion advice.
Kick ass workshop.. I love what these last two days have been like. Going to
go out and enjoy myself now.
[Editor: This testimonial was written by a student of Mystery's, about an experience that he had on a live program with Mystery. At the time, Mystery's company was called "The Mystery Method" -- even when he was teaching it by himself in Canada -- and he also referred to his method by that same name. And so you can see that this student's original writing references that name (Mystery Method). However, Venusian Arts is a new company, unaffiliated with the old Mystery Method corp. Venusian Arts features Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop, and Venusian Arts does not teach the mystery method. It has developed and teaches new and improved seduction methodology. We want to make it clear that the below testimonial is not a Venusian Arts testimonial. But it is a real and historical student testimonial, written by a student who studied and trained with Mystery in the field. The student owns the copyright to this testimonial and it is reprinted here with permission.]
Hi guys
A little about me:
I got out of a serious 6 year relationship about 4 years ago with a HB8.5. I'm Asian, 5'4'', not much physically to look at. I lurked on mASF from last summer to this summer and stopped due to major sticking points andfrustrations. While I was lurking, a friend (who introduced me to mASF) and I went out on average of 3 times a week to sarge. The results were verysporadic, mixed, and honestly pretty poor.
I really enjoy this community – it has so many personalities, nuggets of wisdom, and support.. I had always been a DIY kind of guy, but I decided I need professional help with my game. I've never attended any other seminars or read anything up to this point except for mASF articles.
I signed up for Mystery Method, both the seminar and the workshop. Payment plan was flexible and easy, and the scheduling and logistics went smoothly. I'm not going to cover every detail of the 3 days, because other reviews cover the topic, so I'll cover some highlights and personal observations. I'll also tell you guys this..if I can do it, anyone can. So let's see what happened…
Day1
This day was really about two main things: the philosophy and the complete structure/process of the pickup. It's great to see Mystery's view on the PU as a great upward spiral on how this skill will motivate you to improve other areas of your life which will in turn motivate you to become better at the game. This re-frame helps you then take the process, which is broken down into manageable pieces, and view it as almot like exercise or workout routines.
By the way, each of our class sessions went at least 7.5 hours and most went over that. Same to be said for the workshops – I was out with Mystery and Style until 3-4 AM on Friday and Saturday.
I think a lot has been said about Mystery, but I really didn't have toostrong of an opinion one way or the other before going into the seminar. That being said, now I can say that Mystery is a cool guy. He has a great and valuable skill and he clearly values himself. But he isn't snobby or condescending in any way, and I felt like truly wanted to help all of the students. He is actually an intellect, who has analyzed, studied and then mastered the craft and now is sharing it with his students.
Now I don't know why anyone would sign up for the classroom, and not take the field study (workshop). That's where the rubber meets the road. In fact, I would never take a class where the teacher didn't practice what hepreaches. So, on to the 1st night…
Workshop1
Night one took place in a cool downtown Chi-town club. I get there early and did two warmups. The first was a two-set with a B7 and a HB8. Now I'm really rusty as I haven't been sarging for two months. I didn't get blown out, but I just fizzled. Next thing I know Mystery show ups along with Style. With hindsight, I can say Mystery will only go for the hottest girls in the place. He is as good as everyone says he is. More on thatlater…
Honestly, one of my big concerns was that there would be very little I could learn from Mystery's style, who is tall as fark, because I'm not that tall. Certainly height is one of the factors, but Mystery demonstrated his process and showed me where the control lies..in the process itself. Now Style was also out with us and I'm glad Mystery invited him out. He is a cool guy as well and I felt like his energy and style aligned more w/ mine. Anotherbenefit for me/the other students is you can see two different styles from two different people. applied to the same process with the same results. I will say I was very impressed and amazed, and that is a rarity for me. The goal for the night (for me anyway) was to make it to Step4 of the process, nail it down, and make it repeatable. After watching Mystery and Style and them observing me, I got great feedback on my mistakes as well as my good points….great BL, good energy, good motivation,not kino escalating, not negging at the appropriate time/place which really equated to interest(LBJF) but not attraction. And now for the amazing part of the night…We had been in class since 1pm and now it was nearly 2 or 3 am. I opened up a 6 set ranging from B7-HB9. I was doing ok, but it was a lot for me and I was nearly exhausted. I then turned to Mystery and asked him to takeover the set. When all was said and done Mys and Style had the complete 6 totally engaged and mesmerized. Any other HB in the vicinity or walking by waswatching and fully giving IOIs, plus Mys had gotten a girl from a previous night involved in the jealousy plotline. The funniest part was when an HB9.5 came into the room, stood 4-6 ft away from Mys, turned her back towards him, put her hands in her back pocket and dropped her pants like 3 inches to the point most of her ass was showing. I don't know how he missed that lol. It was truly a work of art to see the guys in action and they owned the club. It was getting late, and they could have closed the deal, but it was aworkshop. We actually went to another quieter place and I got to see Mys and Style perform one set each as well as me doing one. They were cool enough to give me a ride back and gave me debriefing on all of their sets and mine.
Day2
We were debriefed on the night's work and given material (routines). We went through the PU process in its entirety with specifics. We also went through group theory and adv. GT. The material was good and it's likegetting a starter kit to get you through the process. I was also beginning to internalize a lot of the previous day/night's learning.
Night2
This night we would be doing more sets. We met in a yuppie bar which is cool, because it's it a completely different type of venue from theprevious night. When I arrive Mys quickly pulled me into a 3 set with the target being an HB 8.5 in my eyes. Talk about no time to think. He had me do the Peg System on the target, and now I can see how key momentum really is. I saw Mystery work on 4 or 5 of the hottest ones there of course, but I also got to see him open a HB9.5 (if not10) who was with her bf and another guy. Man did those guys looked like tools at the end of that one. This really helped affirm my beliefs that this game can be played by anyone. I was on set 4 or so when I decided I wanted to approach a 6 set of HBs, target was HB9. I informed Style of this and he helped me with the approach byhaving/making me walk by there with him, which he quickly kept proceeding and told me to dive in. I think 'GO!" was his exact word. It was likejumping out of a plane lol. Now this is a first for me…I entered the set, and was in and running it well. I ended up changing target because it was a big set and it was eaier to isolate the 2nd new target. Some of thehighlights were I got 3 of them dancing around me, the HB9 rubbing herself on me, grabbing all of their asses, and making out with one of the girls. Honestly the results were good even after the HB9's boyfriend and another guy showed up. I could have bounce with them to the next place, but I really needed practice lol. When we decided to split ways the secondary target(lol) forced her number onto me like she was scared she was not going to see me again. Mys and I headed to another location where Style, MadRush, and the other students were. Style and MadRush already had theirs for the night. Really, more of the same. It's funny how when you get good at something or exposed to something (not saying that I'm good), how it becomes 'ordinary'.
Day3
I ran one hour late for the session. That day we went through LMRtactics and personalization of individual styles. It is an area of work for me. The funny thing is two of the other students, who I were moreconservative, ended up getting good ideas to convey they individuality. Mys helped me sort alot of my individuality issues up and gave me greatpointers, but it also highlights an area that I need to invest in. Basically I come off as too generic and asexual, which I subconsciously knew, and now I totally realize.
Night3
Totally exhausted by now. (no wonder they call it a bootcamp), but I'm soldiering on. The memorable thing for the night was not Mys'performance (which was good) nor mine (which was fine), but one of the other students. He approached a solid HB9 and I would have been impressed if he lasted two minutes. He actually isolated her and had her for at least 10, if not 15. Mystery emphasized mixed sets and I got into one right away,Actually the girl opened me, and I think it had to do primarily w/ my body language. She kept pushing into me and I wasn't budging. I befriended the guys, their bfs btw, and they actually gave took my phone and put theirnumbers into it. I got alot of kino from the girls. I also opened a single HB8.5, this time concentrating on the process. I was surprised to havegotten so far so fast w/her and blew it when I didn't realize I was inrapport in less than 2 minutes lol. I should have slowed it down. Well,guess what..that is another 1st for me, and I get a hint of when Mystery says getting better at the game introduces a new set of problems. I actually left early because it was a Sunday night, and when I got home I was thinking about how dumb it was for me to leave when I have the best PUA I've ever seen and met in a bar with me and how I should have stuck it out. In any case, I was very happy with my learning curve this weekend. Oh btw, another thing I noticed that night is that there were at least 4-6 'really' good looking guys in the club just sitting at tables, w/ very alpha BL and all, but they were not getting ANYTHING. that is to say, they had no game and thus had no results.
The Mystery Method in summary is highly highly recommended by the gish. The caveat is that you get out what you put in. It is alot of information but it is broken down to very manageable pieces. I believe in the process, even though it still surprises me lol. Mystery and Style are good people. They not only taught me, but hung out as well — I feel like they invested in me as much as I did in the MM. I take this seriously now, and I also understand how the game can make me into a better-rounded person.
So, this is not the end, and I want to become more involved in thiscommunity. I have made a list of thing I need to achieve and I will hold myself personally responsible for making it happen. I will probably ask for help and support along the way, and hope to give back as well… My next post will be in missions…
[Editor: This testimonial was written by a student of Mystery's, about an experience that he had on a live program with Mystery. At the time, Mystery's company was called "The Mystery Method" -- even when he was teaching it by himself in Canada -- and he also referred to his method by that same name. And so you can see that this student's original writing references that name (Mystery Method). However, Venusian Arts is a new company, unaffiliated with the old Mystery Method corp. Venusian Arts features Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop, and Venusian Arts does not teach the mystery method. It has developed and teaches new and improved seduction methodology. We want to make it clear that the below testimonial is not a Venusian Arts testimonial. But it is a real and historical student testimonial, written by a student who studied and trained with Mystery in the field. The student owns the copyright to this testimonial and it is reprinted here with permission.]
I just finished the Sex Magic workshop this past Saturday in Toronto (the workshop took place January 24-26). Here is my outing report and review on it. It is somewhat long, but I want to highlight what I thought were the major points of the workshop. For the lazy bums among you, skip ahead to my summary at the end.
Day 1
There were only two students – a Canadian SSer, who's a friend, and I – tonight. We met up with Mystery at the Indian Motorcycle Club in Toronto. I'd met Mystery before a year ago in Toronto (I'm from Buffalo). For about 3.5 hours, Mystery asked us questions, explained his philosophy, and elaborated on the format of the Mystery Method. He gave us advice on our dress and style and so on. I was told, for example, that I could pull off doing a model routine, and that I should frost my hair, and get a fake tattoo on my neck. He also talked a lot about the game metaphor for pick-ups. We were thrown a lot this night. After this lecture, we headed downstairs (we were on the third floor, which was relatively deserted) and went into action. We all put on big smiles as we entered. I am not used to smiling all the time when I am out at clubs, so this took a little getting used to. But, as Mystery said, the biofeedback when you smile does lighten your mood a little. Immediately, as I went to check my coat, Mystery told me to approach the coat check girl, and gave me an opener and a routine to do. I went in with a big smile, said "hi", and delivered my stuff. It was great – she was smiling and definitely intrigued – some nice reactions. After a short time, I exited gracefully and said that I would catch her later in the night. This was a good start to an eye-opening weekend. The place has a slightly older crowd – more people in their 30s and early 40s and not as many in their 20s. The rest of the night, Mystery pointed out what sets to approach, gave us some good openers and a couple of routines, and had us dive into action. It was fast-paced and fun. He also demonstrated with a few sets, and I learned a good deal by watching him work a room. His flashy displays and magic tricks attracted attention, and not just from the set he was working on. I could see heads turn in his direction in his vicinity, people intrigued and fascinated by what this guy was doing. There were lots of smiles and laughter, and one woman went up to him afterwards and complimented him on his amazing "kinetic energy." A guy bought him a drink because he'd seen Mystery on TV.
I approached about 4 sets tonight. Although I didn't get any closes, I did learn a good bit. I got experience in approaching groups. One of the first sets I approached, I went in asking, "Do you believe spells work?" This was addressed to a couple, which was part of a larger group. The woman asked me later if I just go up to people asking this question. I said yes, because my friends and I were having a discussion about the movie Poltergeist, and I was curious as to what others' opinions were. She thought it was very cool that I did this. Now, before the workshop, I would rarely approach groups. Groups intimidated me, especially ones with guys in them. But I learned that groups are really not so scary, and that guys are great to talk to and befriend! On the other hand, one-sets suck. Mystery had me approach a one-set to learn why it sucks. Sure enough, a minute after I approached the one-set, her friend came over and distracted her, taking her away. Still, she asked me for my name as I was exiting, and that's an IOI (indicator of interest).
At the beginning of the night, Mystery had pointed out a very cute waitress that he wanted. The timing was not right then, though, and he did not go in. Later in the night, he spotted the same waitress walking around and stopped her with "I wanted to meet you." Then, he went into his routine, talking with her about 7 minutes standing and moving her to the couches and talking to her there for another 10 minutes or so. During this time, he was able to handle an guy obstacle who entered. There was good kino soon enough, and he ended up number-closing her (and getting a mouth-closed kiss). It was impressive stuff.
After this, as the place was dying, we went near the dance floor (where we would normally never be), and Mystery did a few magic tricks on the dance floor. He moved in on a two-set, and found out that the guy was the boyfriend. He did not hit on her, so it was fine, and he exited nicely.
On the whole, even though I did not approach as many sets as I had hoped to do – I was busy watching Mystery demonstrate much of the time – I still learned A LOT from this night. Mystery's showmanship and magnetic presence were quite impressive. One complaint would be that he was not watching us closely as we approached the entire time, and we needed to tell him what happened in order for him to give us feedback. This is understandable, though, since he is only one person, and he cannot be watching or talking to everyone at the same time. Also, Mystery was without a wingman the entire weekend, and it would have been nice to at least have one experienced wingman help the students while Mystery might have been busy watching and helping another student. Finally, we spent only about 2.5 hours in the field, when I wished we could have spent closer to 3.5 hours. This can be excused, however, since the expository material, which was quite valuable, took up a lot of time.
On the whole, a good night. I am not usually this comfortable at making approaches, but armed with some good openers and routines, and seeing the field as just a PRACTICE field, I did not feel any fear in approaching sets. I pretended it was a Holodeck. It was great.
Day 2
We met up for the initial talk at Chapters, a bookstore. Another student, who had missed the first night, showed up. Unfortunately, we spent the bulk of the time getting this third student up to speed. I can see that he's pretty inexperienced, and would potentially have a tough time at the workshop. In my opinion, the workshop is not designed for a complete newbie. Mystery will point out a set, give you some pointers on how to open, and you are literally approaching in the next 3 seconds. The other student and I had gone clothes shopping at the mall earlier in the day, and I was sporting some cool clothes. Mystery was disappointed that I still had not gotten a fake tattoo – I did not have time – oh, well.
The third guy, however, was completely unprepared for the night. He was dressed in a white shirt and tie, and jeans. The jeans would later cause problems.
I have nothing personal against this third student, but I think Mystery should make it a policy for students to attend all three nights. We spent too much time backtracking and reviewing things for this third student and too little time learning new things. Instead, I would have wanted him to teach us a few more routines. I still only had 2 or 3 routines to entertain groups with, and I did not feel quite prepared for the night.
We headed to a bar across the street. Our plan was to stay at the bar for at most 40 minutes, and then head to a club that Mystery got us on the guest list at. Things did not turn out as planned, however, because the third student could not get nice pants at that time of the night, and he was not going to get in with jeans. This was a disappointment for me, as I did not quite like the first place (I did not think there were enough targets, for one thing), and I was hoping to only stay for a short time. But I was still determined the make the most of the evening.
I approached more sets tonight – about 6 or 7 in total. We got a good 3.5 hours in the field. I fucked up the groups quite a few times – approaching the target first by accident, approaching a set that had already been approached by my friend, approaching a group at a pool table and not being able to get the attention of the target, etc. – but I still learned from all of them. Again, it was quite helpful to watch Mystery in action as he entertained and dazzled one set after another. He number-closed a cute beer girl quite easily, even while she was distracted by customers trying to buy beer. When he wasn't getting IOIs from the target in one set he worked for about 15 minutes, he introduced me to a couple of girls and told me to demonstrate graphology (handwriting analysis), which I'm great at. Soon, I had a girl (one of Mystery's obstacles) isolated and was doing her handwriting. She looked cute from a distance, but when I got closer, she turned out to be old – not ancient, but older than I usually go for (I'm 25). Still, I had a good time with her and talked to her about energy and Huna and that kind of stuff. She was all into it, and I was getting some good reactions. I could have probably number-closed her, but I chose not to. Soon enough, Mystery's target (which he didn't get enough IOIs from) entered our group and commented that we seemed to be in a deep conversation. It was all happening so fast, and I didn't immediately recognize that this girl might have actually been interested in me. I only talked with her very briefly. If I had better skills, I might have been able to turn this into a close, but it was still a good learning experience. I exited soon after that, but I could still see the girls kind of looking over at me later in the night. I learned the power of enthusiasm and smiling.
Mystery's most amazing demonstration was his last set of the night. He spotted a birthday party group, found the perfect angle at which to enter, and after entertaining the entire group with a couple of routines, found himself on the couch right next to his target! He is going one-on-one with her, fascinating her with his many routines, and getting good kino and other IOIs. My friend and I are watching all of this from a few feet away. The cool thing is that Mystery had pointed this girl out as the girl he wanted earlier in the night. She is definitely hot, almost an HB9. A guy cockblock enters later, and Mystery enlists my help to get rid of him. I happily obliged.
Soon, the place is closing up, and Mystery goes for the number close. The birthday girl, who I actually talked to earlier and who is pretty drunk by now, tries to wreck the whole thing. She tries to pull the target away (Mystery didn't get an opportunity to disarm this obstacle earlier), but it doesn't matter. It's clear that the target is really into Mystery, and she was not going to be simply pulled away by her friend. Her friend tries to take the pen away from her as she is writing her number, but she is unsuccessful. Eventually, the friend manages to pull the target some distance away from Mystery, and you can hear Mystery saying, "Who's in control…who's in charge?" This simple challenge motivates the girl to move back towards him, but her friend is too strong, and Mystery walks out of the room after her. Mystery tells the target that he will call her at 2 pm the next day, and the friend says, "I'll be there." None of this interference from the obstacle matters. It was an impressive display.
Day 3
My friend and I went to a magic shop and picked up a thumb tip, which is a great tool, a book on mentalism, and some other stuff. We are working on expanding our repertoire of routines and tricks.
We meet up at Chapters again. Mystery told me to approach a two-set with a HOT blonde (the obstacle was pretty hot as well), which I discovered soon enough was a little young (maybe 16), but still had some fun with them. I did some handwriting analysis, got them smiling and laughing, and tried to go for a quick close. I fumble the number close – she mentions a serious boyfriend – but I learn. I needed to do more work before going for a close. She was vegetarian anyways.
In the meantime, Mystery has entered a two-set with a hot brunette and a guy friend. He would discover later that she is only 15 (she definitely looked older – about 18), but, what the hell, we are just having fun, and 14 is the age of consent in Canada.
He entered with the pretext of borrowing a chair from their table, but worked his magic right away. After about 10 minutes, she joined our table, and he demonstrated runecasting. It's brilliant, and both the girl and the guy are absolutely floored by the demonstration. Mystery presented himself as an authority – she wanted to be a singer, and he told her he is a performing artist. He gets a number close, and we dissected runecasting downstairs. Runecasting is an awesome routine!
We headed to a strip club next. Mystery's girlfriend actually works at the place. He had some fun with the waitresses, totally breaking their frames and their programs. He went into an analysis of how to work strip clubs, and it's absolutely brilliant stuff. Mystery has had several stripper girlfriends, and he knows more about how to work strip clubs than anyone else I know. As he explained his strategies, I see the beautiful logic of it all. Although I rarely go to strip clubs, it's definitely golden advice for when I do decide to hit one later. Mystery also taught up mnemonics and the money bag routines – all good stuff.
My friend bought the POWER-LEV from Mystery; it's a device that he invented. Get this device if you really want to dazzle a girl! It allows you to levitate beer bottles and other heavy objects right in front of an HB. Mystery would sometimes spot a group, take 30 seconds to do the trick and then just walk away! You invariably get wide-mouthed reactions, and the girls beg you to come back to do more!
We headed to a rather exclusive club next. Mystery's sorta-girlfriend was supposed to get us on the guest list, but, for some reason, we are not, and I was a little annoyed. I was hoping to hit a place with a more exclusive crowd (and hopefully more HBs), especially after what happened the previous night, but we had no luck. We went instead to a bar called the Fez Batik. The place is okay – not too many HBs, but still a decent practice area. The place is a little strange, and I don't do very well tonight. The first set, for example, went nowhere. I approached a group and found myself talking to only one of the obstacles. My energy is somewhat lacking, and I only get lukewarm reactions from this set. Also, the ESP routine that Mystery taught us does not work for me AT ALL. It failed every single time, and I lost credibility early. I think I am going to ditch this routine. Anyways, at the end, I exit, and I swear that this dumbass AFC guy sitting near the girl starts busting up laughing. I was tempted to kick his ass (and I easily could have), but I didn't want to waste my energy and deal with this stupidity, so I moved on to greener pastures. Incidentally, I had this huge zit on my face near my eye the entire weekend, and I'm pretty sure that this took away from the effectiveness of my approaches this weekend, especially tonight. What perfect timing for a zit! Grrr… After this zit is gone, however, watch out!
I only did about 4 sets at the bar. I messed up one two-set that approached later in the night. I tried to address the obstacle more, but she actually didn't hear me and started dancing! So I ended up talking to the target, who turned out to be pretty ugly on closer inspection. She wasn't reacting well to my routines, so I quickly exited after giving her a neg. As I turned, I think that the same AFC dumbass from before started laughing (I didn't bother to look at his face). This asshole must have been following me or something and watching me from a distance. What a loser. Next time I see him, he's getting his ass whipped.
The second set I approached was a two-set. I did not do very well and I managed to ignore the target (about an
too well and she left! So I ended up talking to the obstacle (about a 7) exclusively and thought I would get some practice in closing. I did a few of Mystery's routines, but also added in my own routines. By this time, I was making up stories on my own and getting out rough versions of 2 or 3 of my own routines. One of the benefits of the workshop is that as you engage in conversations with your sets or even your friends, you find that you get fresh ideas for stories or routines all the time, and I love it! Anyways, after running some routines and SS patterns and some value elicitation, I simply go for the number close. I got the number even though the girl knew I lived in Buffalo.
Mystery got two numbers tonight. He closed an HB9 near the bar. It was pretty amazing, because he simply blasted through her resistance. At first, when he went for the close, she said, "Well, you can meet me here next Saturday." Mystery told her, 'No, that's not what we're going to do…" He went on to tell her that he will meet up with her soon, and that he will call her the next day. She must have been pretty shocked at this response, and went silent. He got the number soon afterwards, and she was mouthing "Tomorrow" to him as he was walking away. Great stuff!
Near the end of the night, Mystery worked a set on the couches. I did not see the entire approach, but towards the end, he was holding an HB's hand, getting good kino, and as she is walking away, she says to him, "You're a bad boy…you are so bad…" It was some kick-ass stuff, because that is precisely the image that Mystery intends to present. I was pretty amazed that the girl actually said this to him. This girl was HOT, too – she was definitely a 9.
At the end of the night, Mystery gave each of us his assessments of our performances. He told me that I am the fastest of the group – I cannot disagree with a master.
He said that I just need to practice more and come up to speed so that I can go sarging with him some more.
All in all, despite a few mishaps and some disappointments, this was a great workshop and definitely worth the money. I feel that I can take the skills and knowledge I picked up from the workshop, read up more on the Mystery Method, especially the specific routines, and in a month or two, after tons of practice, become GREAT at doing pick-ups in bars and clubs. There's A LOT to absorb during the workshop, so don't worry if you feel a little overwhelmed and don't become instantly good at your pick-ups. I know I did not exactly come out with all of my guns firing. But I also know that I WILL internalize all of this soon enough, and I will be posting some great outing and lay reports soon – watch for them! HBs in Buffalo will have never seen anyone like me.
Summary
1. If you are fairly comfortable at approaching girls, and don't stall in your conversations after just a minute or two, this workshop WILL improve your skills. If you NEVER approach girls, however, and cannot accept failure and being more than who you currently are, this workshop will not be very helpful.
2. Mystery is an amazing performer and PUA. All the girls he closed this weekend were hot.
3. I wish Mystery would have done a little less demonstrating and more working with the students individually. It would have been also helpful for him to have an experienced wingman there to help the students along.
4. I wish we had at least gone to a higher-class, more exclusive, and more beautiful-people place for at least one night. I felt there were not quite enough HBs at the places we visited, so I didn't feel as motivated to approach and to close.
5. All in all, the workshop ROCKED. Mystery will teach, show, and have you DO the Mystery Method, and you will come out a different person. I know I have.
[Editor: This testimonial was written by a student of Mystery's, about an experience that he had on a live program with Mystery. At the time, Mystery's company was called "The Mystery Method" -- even when he was teaching it by himself in Canada -- and he also referred to his method by that same name. And so you can see that this student's original writing references that name (Mystery Method). However, Venusian Arts is a new company, unaffiliated with the old Mystery Method corp. Venusian Arts features Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop, and Venusian Arts does not teach the mystery method. It has developed and teaches new and improved seduction methodology. We want to make it clear that the below testimonial is not a Venusian Arts testimonial. But it is a real and historical student testimonial, written by a student who studied and trained with Mystery in the field. The student owns the copyright to this testimonial and it is reprinted here with permission.]
Let me first explain my background. I came across ASF in early 2000 which was the first time I heard about Mystery. In November 2000 I bought the SS BHSC. After that, I was focusing solely on SS until I realized that I still had difficulties with SS in the bar and club environment.. Since I am also subscribed to Cliff's List, I educated myself on different theories such as the Mystery Method. I read Mystery's posts and was really impressed by his determination and aggressive PUA online persona. Since some of Mystery's posts on ASF sounded too good to be true, I was initially skeptical about Mystery and his methods. However, I kept an open mind to his utterly different theory and then realized that this guy is the real deal.
The idea of MM is to convey an immensely attractive personality through witty openers, gimmicks and story telling. You'll learn how not to give a fuck and just play the game for the sake of the game. A phone number is merely a bonus. Group theory takes a lot of energy and determination to become good at but once you are, you can work your magic. Group theory works and it rocks to see the results but is not for everyone. It can only be learned if you have the courage to crash and burn multiple times on different 2sets, 3sets and more.
On the third day of the workshop I had a blast safely approaching a 5set of 4 big black guys and 1 really stunning black HB: a 9.5 – no kidding! Hence, I am now determined to combine the knowledge gained from the MM workshop with my SS knowledge, which will ultimately result in my becoming a Killer PUA, armed with personality-conveying group theory skills and SS skills (which can only be used later when you phase-shift into 1-on-1 dialogue). I'd like to point out that SS is for people who merely want to focus on walkups outside of the club and bar environments. Unfortunately, most of the really hot babes can be found in 3sets in bars/ clubs and not in malls or coffee shops. If you want 10s and want to get good in this environment, then sign up for the MM workshop and have a blast internalizing those skills. If you prefer to have it the easy and less successful way, stick to your current game.
During the 3 day workshop I realized that Mystery is actually a cool guy. He exudes confidence with a very dynamic and outgoing ("talkative"? LOL) personality. He is a real performer and it is amazing to see him work the room. He told us that he was unsuccessful with women until the age of 21, so if he could do it, anyone who is determined enough can do it, too! Granted, he also relies on his magic, which is difficult for others to model but it was all the more impressive to see his wingman be as successful with MM without using magic.
Mystery told us that he used to perform stage hypnosis, which is much faster than the typical SS approach and gave us a demonstration of his knowledge in this area. I remember reading about his expertise in hypnosis on Cliff's List, which I found difficult to believe since I couldn't recollect him mentioning it before. Through this demonstration he gained a lot more credibility in my eyes since I then realized that he is not only well-versed in his own methodology but also in the area of hypnosis which he CHOSE not to pursue any longer.
My conclusion after this demonstration is that Mystery could easily use his stage hypnosis skills to be successful with women but decided to work on conveying an exciting personality through his Mystery Method instead. To me, this demonstrated even more how powerful MM is: An atomic weapon in the bar/club environment.
[Editor: This testimonial was written by a student of Mystery's, about an experience that he had on a live program with Mystery. At the time, Mystery's company was called "The Mystery Method" -- even when he was teaching it by himself in Canada -- and he also referred to his method by that same name. And so you can see that this student's original writing references that name (Mystery Method). However, Venusian Arts is a new company, unaffiliated with the old Mystery Method corp. Venusian Arts features Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop, and Venusian Arts does not teach the mystery method. It has developed and teaches new and improved seduction methodology. We want to make it clear that the below testimonial is not a Venusian Arts testimonial. But it is a real and historical student testimonial, written by a student who studied and trained with Mystery in the field. The student owns the copyright to this testimonial and it is reprinted here with permission.]
Disclaimer: I have no ties with Mystery other that I was a student in the Chicago bootcamp on Apr 22-24 with Mystery, Style, Lovedrop and intern instructor Alex.
BACKGROUND
33 y/o Filipino American 5'7 in field shoes 150 pounds in Jacksonville,Florida. In the past, it seemed to be just lucky to get these chicks and ended up being a wussy. So decided to get this part of my life handled. Been in the community since the beginning of the year.
Discovered DYD and tried that stuff for awhile (3 minute email technique)in public venues and got flaky numbers. Read up on internet strategies and had day twos with a handful and full montied two chicks. I guess I could have relied on my internet for my dating life but wanted to get good at cold approaches/social circle lays.
Read bunch of shit on mASF and tried that stuff out in the field. Could do the openers (wlm, jealous girlfriend, thug vs gangsta) but after that just shotgun shit around (best friends, sexual predator, etc) and couldn't get far. I wanted to see how this stuff really works in the field. Since there are no ASF type PUAs in my area I decided to take a seminar/infield in Chicago.
REVIEW
Sorry I hate to type and there so much stuff it's hard to condense. So I'm not going to give a detailed account on the day and night happenings. All the previous reviews are dead on about that. And this is intended for guys contemplating to take Mystery bootcamp and hopefully make an informeddecision.
1. Was it worth it? – YES, but there is a price you have to pay. Going in I thought we would learn techniques/strategies for each phase of the M3. But it's more than that. Mystery gives you a blueprint on how to become a PUA by building identity. The price you pay? In order to build the PUA, you have to work the field and build your identity afterwards. So think of the MM bootcamp as the beginning.
And you have to be receptive to honest feedback. For instance, Mystery suggested I should shave my hair since I'm balding. He told a heavy set guy he should go for a strip club owner look. He called another guy's clothing style generic. If you are not willing to drop the ego, I suggest don't go. But I wanted to get this stuff down so ego dropped easily for me.
2. Is Mystery for real? – YES! Whoever posted about him paying offwomen in the clubs is a liar of the greatest magnitude. The students saw his photo album and his digital black book of HB 9/10s and damn, I would be happy if I had 1 percent of that. It's fucking huge! He put himself on the line the first night and only going to run practice game. But he ran a solid game and it was amazing when the chick went to the bathroom or somewhere else,Mystery would give play by play analysis. Was like that show NFL Playbook on ESPN where they dissect football plays. All he need was a chalkboard.
He went over a general overview of the model and later that night wewitnessed it. Opening, change of venue within club, kino escalation, etc! Like M says "The Mystery Method delivers the fucking goods!"
3. Will your game improve? – YES!!! Pretty much the website is right on what to expect. There were two guys in my class that had good game before coming in. Good being an RAFC or holding sets longer than 30 minutes. Oneextracted a fiancee out of the club (also managed to get kicked out of the club for overnegging the bartenders and pawning a UG to some alpha black guys FUCKINGUNREAL) and one extracted HBAmazon who flew in from LA was on a date. He befriended the guy and took his girl. AGAIN FUCKIN UNREAL.
But most guys were like me. I had problems with creating attraction ofthe bat going into seminar and left the seminar getting to at least qualification. And just now after hitting the field two weeks after MM, yesterday ran a solid comfort game using kino escalation and grounding/vulnerability routines. Just need to work on my venue bounce gambits but I'm gettting at it.
Will write for stuff later… not a KJ and hate typing and rather be in the field.
[Editor: This testimonial was written by a student of Mystery's, about an experience that he had on a live program with Mystery. At the time, Mystery's company was called "The Mystery Method" -- even when he was teaching it by himself in Canada -- and he also referred to his method by that same name. And so you can see that this student's original writing references that name (Mystery Method). However, Venusian Arts is a new company, unaffiliated with the old Mystery Method corp. Venusian Arts features Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop, and Venusian Arts does not teach the mystery method. It has developed and teaches new and improved seduction methodology. We want to make it clear that the below testimonial is not a Venusian Arts testimonial. But it is a real and historical student testimonial, written by a student who studied and trained with Mystery in the field. The student owns the copyright to this testimonial and it is reprinted here with permission.]
I will try to be as realistic as possible with this review even though it is not possible to be 100 percent realistic.
DISCLAIMER
mystery doesn't pay for this or anybody in his crew and I don't have to do this. I do it for a 2 fold purpose: by writing about it I can learn more about what happened and number 2, I am grateful for getting my money's worth and even more…may be mystery agrees to give me a blow job later on, who knows.
MY GAME BEFORE MYSTERY
I had taken a loverboy bootcamp(completely kicked ass!) and I was getting good in the game(20+ lays in a year and a half(90 percent ons's), plus any number of tonguedowns and hook ups in field). I have 3-4 fb's I can call for sex anytime and the quality of my fb's was already increasing(6, 7,5 ratio, it is difficult to make fb's above that level, at least for me) I had been sarging 2 nights a week for a year and a half consistently. so my feet are soaking wet already. still I found out later I was playing the numbers game and not consistently solid game. I had lays due to hard core approaching and persistence and still had trouble laying hot girls. I would eject of sets the minute I saw attraction was not there and get a new set going until I got the ons. my game was ons game. my calibration is quite good, I know when a woman is attracted and I can see when a woman is attracted to another guy aka instructor. so you can trust me when I tell you that mystery and his crew owned a venue and kick ass. still despite all this I was completely clumsy with mm. the first night I barely could get to A3 with a woman. I was nervous and found myself ejecting out of sets and not comfortable at all. new shoes. ha, ha.
REASONS FOR TAKING MYSTERY
I wanted to get better. I wanted to be able to know this game well and get to the next level. another reason was schedule: I was going to be in Vegas when mystery was there and it was like a one time opportunity. one more thing mystery is considered in the community as one if not the best pickup artists out there having been the mentor to almost all the best puas out there.
FEARS TO MAKE THIS DECISION TO TAKE A WORKSHOP: 1. flash game( I thought mystery was going to do an act or some magic shit that was not repeatable and rip off our money. however far from it, the seminar is not about magic though he taught us a couple of easy magic tricks that anybody can learn to get attraction)
2. no feed back (I thought mystery will sarge and forget about the students and go and do his own thing. however far from it, on day 2 and 3 I had the opportunity not only to sarge with him but also have his feed back at all times. sometimes I couldn't believe it was mystery, world's probably best pua correcting my game. I felt like I was so lucky to have this opportunity. though he is at a different level of game he understands the students and has a policy of "leaving no man behind", that is, he gets down with even the lowest level students and works on their game. amazing shit. down to earth and cool guy.)
3. indirect method getting old (that is, I saw so many guys going direct and shooting down indirect that I was afraid that I was signing up for some old school shit. however, mystery proved to us that his method works every time if you do it well and can get you the hottest girls in the room, plus if you want to go direct you can still do that by jumping to A3 and sarge girls that way, I did that on lonewolfs and lesser girls. still mm kicks ass and it has a structure to it that is totally repeatable and simple but still not easy to get in the first 3 approaches. you have to get good at it)
day1
met sinn in the conference room of BOARD WALK Hotel and Casino. first impression was a cool guy, he had some peacocking going like big boots and tattoo going up his neck. made him look edgy and shit, he knew my name and that was fucking cool. I was early so I went and grabbed some food came back and met Savoy. they all knew my name. cool. made me feel at home. I was a bit nervous like most guys. we all sit down and we are around 10 guys varying in age and backgrounds. you got very young guys, mid twenties, thirties, forties, etc. it is quite a mix. I am not the only one learning this shit. wow.
THEN MYSTERY ENTERS THE ROOM.
fuck. this guy is another thing. first 5 minutes, most of the people were looking at his gear and trying to figure out what the fuck is this guy about. peacocking at work. I knew later that this is how a girl feels when he first steps up to a group. the first 10 minutes he gets instant attraction by his peacocking and the girls are trying to decipher what the fuck is going on. mystery is wearing a rock star gray and purple 2 piece suit with hat. one of the coolest hats I ever seen, nothing like the one you see in the web page. fucking cool gear, not over the top but still you think he is a personality or somebody important. he is wearing all kinds of wrist bands and necklaces and fucking cool and small binoculars around his neck. the first 5 minutes I was asking myself wtf does he need those binoculars for. it is all part of his peacocking. that's how a female feels when he goes in set. he becomes interesting, then…attractive. I feel like a faggot saying this shit but it is exactly the truth. he is also wearing a small cool back pack attached to his back in the form of a beehive or something, makes him look like an insect of some kind or a fucking ninja turtle. but it is all congruent and shit. makes him look interesting. I don't want you to get the impression that he looks rock starrish (which he does at a different level), like I see some guys peacocking with metal gear and shit, no, that's not it at all. he looks interesting, like he is a character, not trash metal rock star. well after I recovered from the initial impression I start listening to his pitch. he starts by saying a woman is a robot and that we have to push the right buttons, and makes the analogy with the new generation of robots that are intelligent and respond to certain stimulus. women are pre programmed to respond to certain stimulus too. he is going to teach us how to get there. cool. he goes into evolution psychology and explains the ant farm theory and all that. basically how we are living in a body that was programmed to live in a small society and now we live amogs 100s of people. he explains why we fear rejection and I have my first satorai. I understand where my approach anxiety comes from. he explains the process that happened a long time ago in small communities and how we are the same response wise.
I don't remember but he explains the survival and replication theory, which is at the basis of all MM routines and moves. it is fucking cool because I see how the MM method is aligned with human interactions at the very core. cool. all his routines and theories and gambits are aligned with the idea of survival and replication.
cool shit. he gets our attention from the beginning. it is like he is doing a set on us. we can not help but listen to this guy. after sometime, he sits down and kicks back in the chair and starts sharing how some of his routines have S & R value, therefore you dhv to a woman. then she can not help but feel attracted. another satorai for me. I didn't understand the "why" behind dhv's. I thought it was about bragging and the concept is more subtle than bragging. like if you brag about a Ferrari you will not have s and r value. s and r is a very subtle concept in the woman's mind that tools her and makes her go on auto pilot after a guy. many things I didn't understand about the game he explained where they come from and put the picture together for me. as a player or pua you need to understand this shit if you are to up your game. for example I was doing a lot of unnecessary shit that didn't convey s and r.
he explained how to convey s and r to women. the coolest shit ever. that's worth the money in itself. he went into mm method and explained the different parts. you can get this for free in the web site. still how the different parts work you cant get. this has to be explained. he explains the different gambits as well as the venue changes and the reasons for 7 hour lay period. how to ease the woman into sex with you etc.
he explained the hook, bait, release system for A3. amazing concept that I was doing unconsciously but not consistently anyway. cool part of the game, that I have to ground. he goes into explaining the Kino escalation model. most of my Kino used to be touching, hugging and kissing. he explains how it is bad to do too much too soon. it blew my mind. it is how you get solid numbers and day 2's. I never had solid numbers so I decided to do ons game which limited my game a lot. meaning I couldn't go for the best targets and had to close the deal same night therefore my game relied a lot on my looks and my personality. we do about 4 hours and we split for dinner.
SARGING AT HARD ROCK CAFE CIRCULAR BAR
mm crew gets there and it is show time. we are required to watch them work and do a few approaches only. it is tv night. we are supposed to watch them work sets and see how the stuff works. then we have to do 6 approaches with feed back. Enters mystery and crew. as we step in the hard rock cafe, mystery, Savoy, and sinn get in set right off the bait. Mystery gets opened right and left by girls touching him, his back pack, his hat, etc. fucking chick magnet. some students and me stand near sinn who is sarging a hb9. he went in a huge group and isolated her from the group in about 10 minutes. he is peacocked with tattoo on his neck, big boots, earrings and a tie around his neck. nobody knows why he needs a tie. we know why. he is sarging this girl and it looks like a normal conversation but every time the woman is getting near him, he vacuums her in with body language and game. she is locked on to him. fucking kick ass. we stand too near and he shouts to back off, "you are creeping her out". lol. all this in the middle of the set. that's just one example of what can be done. we don't know what he is talking with her but we know it is material from mm. we can see all the kino going as planned. then I switch to mystery. mystery is totally sarging the whole circular bar. he is moving around getting opened and opening girls. he is fucking tall in his big boots, so all the fucking room, including the guys prop him and remember him. he goes into various groups, merges them backwards and forwards and it blows my mind to see that shit. then after some time school is in session. he starts kino escalation model. he starts isolating girls from different groups. it is amazing how the groups just open up and let them alone to do their thing. he was cool enough not to trigger creepiness and then he gets permission from groups to isolate. he isolates and hugs the girls, touches them, sits them in his lap. no problem. then he leaves the girl and goes to another set and does the same. he is demonstrating to us how it is done in set. I counted 3/4 girls he isolated and hugged and kissed and had on his lap. he could have extracted them but of course that would have been the end of the workshop. he jumped from girl to girl and demonstrated what and how it is done. he showed us how you escalate properly without triggering resistance and how solid game should look like.
I also watched sinn work. this guy is amazing. he had hb9 on his arm and was gaming her in isolation. he would do take aways and go back to her and he was kinoing her and shit. amazing guy to watch. he is not peacocked over the top but still you could see how the method works for different style of guys. sinn told me he wanted to see me in set. he said he was going to fix my game. and he did actually. we started doing approaches in the casino floor and I would go back and get feed back. he really helped me and told me I could be very good when I master the system. he made me open seated sets, mix sets, 2 sets, 5 sets..fucking roller coaster. every time he would feed me back on mistakes. cool guy, always pointing out the good and correcting the bad. awesome job. I was shit scared to do approaches. I was very self-conscious for having an instructor picking on my game and screwed up most of the time. but still plough through my own resistance because he was very good and very technical. awesome job dude. you and mystery absolutely helped me. we do a like 13 approaches and go back to the circular bar where mystery and Savoy are owning the bar. mystery is merging sets, hugging, kissing etc. then Maximus enters. Maximus is somebody that you would look at in a venue immediately. he wears a black hat, wearing jeans with a huge belt buckle. he has one of the strongest frames I ever seen. he is very serious and locks the girls with h is tonality. totally above their frame most of the time. killing bl. always in control. anyway Maximus is sarging a set and basically passes a girl on to me. he gives a girl to me and I start talking to her and in under 5 minutes I am tonguing her down. my old game creeping back. I tongue her down in front of the group and soon I have cockblocks coming my way.
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her sister comes and I befriend her. I took a few photographs for the record and continue watching Maximus. girl gives me her room and phone number. but I never called her. she was with huge cockblock scenario of sisters and family so I let it go. in my hometown I would have fucked her big time. Maximus is one of the coolest guys. he always comes back and explains what he does and explains what mystery is doing and what we should do in this situation. I watch Savoy too. mystery gives him one of his girls and Savoy kisses her while mystery entertain obstacle, then mystery passes the obstacle to sinn and finally obstacle is engaged by Maximus. it is fucking crazy how they wing. Savoy is hugging the girl all this time and kinoing and kissing while the guys entertain the guy/obstacle. as we leave the guy shouts "mystery kicks ass". can you believe that shit? guy is so tooled that it makes me cry. I had only seen that shit by loverboy in tiger London where we approach a mixed set and the guy was running after him around the bar. he wanted him back in the set. funny thing is loverboy had forgotten his name but he remembered him. it happened a couple of times more. that's how powerful disarming obstacles is.
day 2
during seminar, we go deep into the mm with gambits. mystery is explaining some of the routines that have s and r value built in. I don't quite remember the theory that day. he taught us some tricks like the coin snatch and stuff like that. we got a lot into qualifying the girl and neg theory. neg theory is the back bone of mm. without negs the whole thing crumbles down. tough for me because I am supposed to throw negs like a machine gun and I am not used to it. mystery is a fucking neg machine. no wonder he invented that shit. at the end of the day 2 I could master negs like a mother fucker. still a long way to go.
at night we go to tangerine at Treasure island. it is a fucking loud club and it requires us to approach. I went there and got there early and started sarging the fucking club. when mystery and crew arrived I had open 3 sets and was tired already. then sinn told me to go with him and open sets in the casino floor. I was scared shit. it was day game and I had no fucking clue. so first set he asked me to open 2 fat women. they were big as elephants. I got in and worked it out. I had to peel them off from me because they were attracted and I was disgusted. sinn pulled me out and debrief. my sticking points were body language and not negging fast. cool. another student was with us and he opened quite well a seated set inside a cafe. he did well though sinn said things that were wrong like telegraphing too much interest. I had that too. I opened seated sets and what not. if it was alive and breathing I would open it. sinn corrected me over and over the bl and negging shit. I was not up to speed at all. sinn is by far the coolest instructor and helped me tremendously. he is a very intelligent guy that can spot your sticking points and helped you on the spot. we continued walking and opening. I did around 15/20 sets. the one I remember was a huge fucking group, all married women. I hit on my target several times and got them laughing and the husband came from the toilet. I engaged him immediately and he told me that "2000 people died in the us from approaching married women". that's how bad it was. still everybody was laughing and I ejected in a cool mode. good laugh. we got general debrief at the end with mystery who was not very peacocked for night 2. still he was cool as usual.
day 3
EVERYTHING COMING TOGETHER.
this is the day that I felt the power of mm coming together. it was a freak show for me because I could not help but get to A3 in most sets and that was a satorai for me, how the girls jumped through my hoops. crazy shit.
on day 3 we went into theory big time.
SINN started day 3 giving us theory about why guys don't get good at this. he actually pointed out some of the common excuses guys have not to get better. he went into the cube and made some interpretation I had never seen before of the cube that really kicked serious ass. I was like uh! aha! fucking awesome shit. he also gave us comments on our style and clothing. he went one by one giving advice person to person. that was how personalized it was.
mystery arrive wearing the most outrageous hat you can imagine. made us laugh. the he started building our identities and that was pretty cool. mystery went 1 by 1 giving us a proper identity. he picked up parts of our jobs and made them into an identity to convey to girls s and r value. we also had to devise stories and routines around our identity. that's where the congruency comes from. he taught us the photo routine and other identity conveying routines. it was awesome. I could see how everything came into place like a puzzle. fucking tight. most people think that routines are fake because they don't know how to develop routines themselves that reflect their identity. there is a huge misunderstanding in the community about this. I can see it now. I used to not understand it either.
during the day 3 there was an emotional moment that I shouldn't talk about where mystery showed he is dead serious about " no man behind policy". we could see he truly cares about his students and he went great lengths to help us get out of our limiting beliefs and mind. he is a great teacher and he truly cares. from that moment my trust and respect for him grew tremendously. I felt like he was a friend and I could talk my shit to him. cool guy.
night 3.
ANYTHING GO NIGHT.
we are armed to the teeth with shit. we are dangerous. so we go to Bellagio and start sarging the casino. this is fucking day time shit. we are supposed to open moving targets.
Savoy took me aside and another student. we went into a bar at Bellagio. I said cool, I don't have to do moving targets. I was scared shit out of it. we went into a bar and Savoy told us to pick sets and open. we went one at a time. every time he asked us what happened and debrief. I opened like 4 sets and every time I got shut down. it was so fucking embarrassing. even a girl hit me in the chest and said get the fuck out of here. I was dumbfounded and Savoy said I was telegraphing a lot of interest and my body language was off. he corrected me and I went in and still bombed. actually Savoy's corrections took time to settle but when they did, I started opening crazy. we sarged all the sets in the bar and went outside because we had burned the place.
ENTERS MYSTERY.
that was the coolest night for me. I had mystery with me like 1 hour and he would debrief me and the guys. we started opening moving sets. the best bl exercise ever. it was awesome. I bombed the first 4-5 approaches and every time mystery would come and correct me. he gave me advice on bl and tonality. he demonstrated for me actually. awesome. then the fun began. every time as I was getting good mystery would point out hotter and hotter girls that were walking passed us. mystery would say " look at that hottie ox" " who wants her" "I will take her if you don't take her". I would go "fuck, I take her". fun stuff. mystery loves women. he likes the super hot. he made me sarge 9,5 and 10's. I was scared shit but still did it. I was following his leadership. that's all. we did a whole bunch of moving sets and I increased my range in set from 1 to 15 minutes. I was getting to A3 on moving sets which is amazing. then enters the 9,5 girl that I number closed. mystery sees a super hottie and goes " look at that ox. you want her". fuck yeah. so I opened her on the move. she bit the bait from the beginning. she was very young but still followed my lead and after 15 minutes I number closed her and got kino going. satorai. that was a really hot girl I did. I came back and mystery was excited when he saw the number. I was excited and I couldn't believe it either. next day I called her and she turned out to be under 21 and couldn't get in the clubs and we ended up chatting but I went nowhere with her. she was way too young for me. still that was a cool sarge. then mystery pointed out a 10 for me. I opened her and went like 25 minutes into moving set convo. that was exciting to see a perfect girl jumping through the hoops. I ejected on her after I started getting creepy and nervous. came back to mystery for debrief. that night we open a whole bunch of moving sets. then I sarge with sinn some more and we got opened by a bunch of fatties and it was funny because they started touching me and I put their hands off me and they wanted to fuck but sinn and me were grossed out. lol. good laugh. Sinn made me open sets until 2 o'clock and corrected my game big time one on one. that was very cool. after sarging 10's all sets look easy as fuck. sinn corrected parts of my game like negging. my negs were too playful and didn't convey enough harshness. so I had to neg harder and things like that. cool sarge with sinn. he was the wearing the coolest sunglasses. so we went back for debrief with mystery. mystery talked to us about bl and opening for sometime and we took photos to end the night. we collected phone numbers and took some pictures together. it was fun. and all the instructors were cool with us.
OTHER GIRLS I SARGED WHILE IN VEGAS.
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LEARNING POINTS
there were many learning points and all I can say that mm completely hit me off balance. though I was running similar game I was not ready for the amount of shit I had to change. so I will only point out the most relevant shit.
1. structure:mm gives you the structure most guys lack in field. it is fool proof and it makes you run solid game. I will always remember the mystery's phrase "if you don't know where you are YOU ARE IN A3". that alone save many sarges.
2. kino escalation model. most of my kino was erratic and he fix that and made a whole bunch of kino compliance test so that you where you are every time with the girl. kino is one of the most important parts of the game.
3. identity: we went great length to build an identity that was congruent and we will be comfortable with. this has a great value in pick up.
4. dhv's and negs. the essence of dhv's and negs. very subtle stuff that is engrained in them. again dhv is not bragging and it has to be subtle as well as negs. attraction stuff that works.
5. bl: he taught us the kind of bl that works every time and the boot camp is worth the penny only for bl.
6. many other stuff I can not write because it would take too long here plus I signed a non-disclosure.
NEGATIVES OF MM
first of all I enjoyed it all the way and cant find nothing wrong. I believe it is pretty solid boot camp, still to master mm it takes a lot of trial and error and of course taking a boot camp is the way to go if you want to invest.
mm is for social people or people that want to be social. if you are an unsocial rat it is going to be hard to pull it off. still you can benefit from the various kino tests and game that you learn in the boot camp. it is a win/win situation either way.
3 days is a very short time. it is difficult to get everything in such a short time. the best you can do is try to focus on the basics and try to get the basic of the system going and then work on it solo.
it is very expensive. I understand most people cant afford it. still you could say mystery is one if not the greatest pua ever, he actually said that himself. lol. well in all fairness he actually trained most of the greatest puas out there and most of what you see around this board is mystery game or some engineered form of it. I realized that my game used to be td based but it was not. it was mm based.
In conclusion I loved the boot camp and it is worth the money I invested in it. mystery and crew are the coolest people and are there to help the students. it blew my mind how they care and talk to you and know where you are coming from. mystery is a cool guy, nothing and everything you probably you have imagined. he takes your reality by storm and takes you through the process.
OX
what's real?…define real.
[Editor: This testimonial was written by a student of Mystery's, about an experience that he had on a live program with Mystery. At the time, Mystery's company was called "The Mystery Method" -- even when he was teaching it by himself in Canada -- and he also referred to his method by that same name. And so you can see that this student's original writing references that name (Mystery Method). However, Venusian Arts is a new company, unaffiliated with the old Mystery Method corp. Venusian Arts features Mystery, Matador, and Lovedrop, and Venusian Arts does not teach the mystery method. It has developed and teaches new and improved seduction methodology. We want to make it clear that the below testimonial is not a Venusian Arts testimonial. But it is a real and historical student testimonial, written by a student who studied and trained with Mystery in the field. The student owns the copyright to this testimonial and it is reprinted here with permission.]
Workshop (nighttime)
1. Workshop (nighttime) overall: excellent
2. The amount of personal attention at the workshop: excellent
3. The quality of personal attention at the workshop: excellent
First night
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Instructor: Mystery Time spent: 40 minutes
Overall rating: Good
Notes: focused on finding good sets, rather than just any sets. I didn't
open at all.
Instructor: Matador Time spent: 60 minutes
Overall rating: Excellent
Notes: I was awed by his demo.
Instructor: Lovedrop Time spent: 2 hours
Overall rating: Excellent
Notes: Stayed on the street, got me to open numerous targets, some moving.
Fun and educational.
Second night
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Instructors: Sundown, Lovedrop, Mystery & Matador
Time spent: 4 hours
Overall rating: All Excellent
Notes: Opened 12 times. Had an excellent time, learned a lot. (With matador's
aid) got to C1.
Third night
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Instructor: Hawaii Time spent: 1 hour
Overall Rating: Excellent
Notes: Aided my negs. Advanced all aspects of the game
Instructor: Mystery Time spent: 10 minutes
Overall Rating: Excellent
Notes: Made me approach a 4 set with 3 large black guys. No fear… I
don't know how I did it.
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Seminar
1. The content of the information taught at the seminar: Excellent
2. The teaching of the information taught at the seminar: Excellent
3. The seminar (daytime) overall: Excellent
4. The logistics and organization of the weekend itself: Good
5. The logistics and organization of the pre-weekend process: Good
6. Youur experience overall: Excellent
Did you feel that everything you wanted to learn about in the seminar was
coverd? What was most useful/what would you like to see included.
Yes. Everything was covered.
Did you feel that everything you wanted to learn about in the workshop was
covered? What was most useful / what would you like to see included/
Yes. Everything was covered. I wouldn't add anything but time. Make the
workshop a whole week long.
What else could Mystery Method provide you in the future to support and
further enhance your learning?
I will need to keep getting pushed to go out. I'll be trying, but I'm
worried about falling off the wagon.
How did you hear about Mystery Method?
Maclean's magazine in Canada. (Article about Style and his new book)
What were the key reasons that led you to sign up for a Mystery Method
program.
My game sucked. I read the article …
What else can we do to improve the program or Mystery Method?
More nights. (The daytime program could be stretched, or just add more
nights.) Mystery would not even need to be there.