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• Program Review for Matador, Hawaii, Joe D, and Knack, by Maverick143, Las Vegas Bootcamp, Dec 07 by Blitz
• Program Review for Hawaii, by Byrne, One-on-One Training in Chicago, Jan 08 by Blitz
• Taking Advice From Women by Prophet

Program Review for Matador, Hawaii, Joe D, and Knack, by Maverick143, Las Vegas Bootcamp, Dec 07

I wasn’t convinced that the boot camp was going to help me but went for it on the insistence of my pal and to solve the mystery behind mystery and the pick up artists once and for all.

The first day Matador took us through the Mystery Method, which was kind of repetitive for me because I had read the book. However, I did see pieces of the puzzle coming together and also the practical application of the method and how it was important to follow the steps. Though I knew the steps I ignored following them and I realized how following them could benefit.

The session went on for longer then expected giving us very little time to get ready and hit the club for field training. Kosmo, Joe D, Hawaii, Knack were the ones helping students on a personal level by helping them open. Mean while mystery and matador were demonstrating I would say picking up.

To me Knack and Joe D were providing the personal touch, it was a funny feeling to watch Knack or Joe D observing me in sets from a short distance, but they did correct me on mistakes that I would never have realized that I was making.

Day 2 session: Hawaii gave us a stack for all the phases of attraction which we practiced with him until the man himself Mystery arrived to take a session. Mystery took us through DHV spikes and how it was important to include them in every story or statement that your making. We had a early wrap up as compared to day 1 though it was 8:30 pm far ahead of the scheduled wrap up of 7:00 pm.

The night in the field involved opening more and more sets since we went out to an excellent club. Cheers and thanks to Hawaii and the other guys who were making sure we got VIP access to the clubs on both nights.

Day 3: started with a debrief by everyone on the night out followed by Kino tactics by Joe D and Hawaii, in the mean time they were taking individual feedback on the boot camp and making sure everyone was satisfied. At that particular I did not feel very satisfied, I was of the opinion that the mystery behind mystery has been solved but I something felt incomplete.

Matador walked in by the time Kino was complete. First few sentences from his mouth and I knew that we all were in for a roller coaster ride. Matador was in the zone emitting a passion that I have very rarely seen by a speaker, and Matador did not disappoint suddenly every word that came out of his mouth was like a treasure.

As he took us through treasure of information on what he calls Matador Mayhem, he was being constantly disturbed by his staff to remind him of his next commitment, but I give him a standing ovation for canceling whatever he had and enlightening us with a lot of information on personality matrix, identity, LMR etc. He told one of his instructors he was doing a boot camp and not a time table. All and all it was a boot camp on life style and women.

Me and my friend Nightriders trip to Vegas involved the boot camp and listening to David D CD’s.

I have been decently successful with women and would think I know a lot about them but at the end of the trip especially the “Matador Blitz Mania” and David D I realized what a fool I had been. I felt there is a lot to learn and the process had just begun.

It proved to be a great decision just one regret I wish I had taken it sooner rather than now.

Special thanks to Knack and Joe D.

For the love and respect of the Game.

Cheers

Maverick143

Program Review for Hawaii, by Byrne, One-on-One Training in Chicago, Jan 08

I signed up for Hawaii’s 1 on 1 when I went to Vegas for vacation. He made me feel like an old friend right off the bat and took me out with the best insider tips on the Vegas territory. The first night he showed me some great demos by easily and effortlessly opening up set after set all in a fun playful mood. He had to cut sets loose pretty abrubtly because he was training me but within 3-5 minutes he was able to run A1-C1 without a hitch and was making them laugh and grow attraction to him and even kiss him. I’m sure he was on his way to S3 if I wasn’t there. After I had enough demo time, he pushed me into set after set and quickly critiqued me and corrected me on the little subtleties that make or break a good set. He makes a great wing and coach!!! My game truely improved after his help but I’m still searching for my own identity and style to become a master from my perspective. Hawaii sent me on the right path to begin with. I would recommend that you read the materials and study the openers and DHV stories and practice a few hundred sets before doing any 1 on 1 though because I was very new to this and it’s hard to teach someone to ride a bike when you have to spend time bolting on the training wheels before hopping on the seat and pedalling. A 1 on 1 seems more likely to tweak you then train you from scratch but I don’t have approach anxiety to begin with but just learning a new method of pick up since I’m otherwise experienced in this having dated strippers and dating/sleeping with regular girls but not really anything above an 8.

Taking Advice From Women

We have an awesome on-going thread in our Best Of Section of the forum with a woman answering questions about Pick-Up from her perspective. It’s a great thread and there’s some awesome advice in it. You can find it here:

http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7014

It has always been a standard sort of thinking by many aspiring PUAs to assume that you should never take the advice of a woman because what they say they want and what they really want are two different things. While this is true in many cases, it should not be taken as the final word on the matter.

You can take advice from women, just be sure to take it with a grain of salt. Don’t necessarily take every single word literally. Instead, try to understand why a women is saying a particular thing, as that can sometimes tell you more than the advice itself. You would even be surprised by how much you can learn just by watching your female friends deal with guys and applying what you see to what you know about female psychology. I always try to keep close female friends who I would never try to seduce, and I always try to encourage other PUAs to do the same. Close female friends who you are not sexually interested in are great for social proof as pivots, can help you be more comfortable being around women without experiencing sexual tension, or even just to make sure you have some women somewhere in your life at all times. But more importantly, you can learn a ton from them.

For instance, one of my good friends just broke up with her boyfriend. Within the first week of her being single, she received close to a hundred texts, phone calls, emails, and myspace/facebook messages from different AFC guys that she knows (which shows you the kind of quality of women I like to keep in my social circles). What I found interesting is that all of them were basically saying the same thing: “Hey, I heard you and XXXXX just broke up. If you want to get together and have a coffee and talk about it or something, I’m here for you.” Now, she’s not naive, she knows that it’s never just coffee, and she’s always telling me about these guys who hit on her in creepy/shady/AFC ways and I make sure to file every story in my brain under What Not To Do.

The amount of information I have acquired about women and how AFC guys act just by watching interactions between guys and my female friends is staggering. It quite possibly would have taken me years to learn so much without an open and semi-honest female brain to quiz and observe every now and then. I encourage all of you to strive to do the same.

Similarly, there are also many girls out there that are very much aware of how their minds work.

I was with another one of my friends on New Year’s and we were talking about an issue she had with a certain guy and – honest to god – she said to me “I don’t necessarily ‘like him’, he’s not even hot, but he’s just so cocky and confident and it’s…attractive.”

Does that ring any bells to anyone?

Now, a girl like that can sometimes be hard to find, but they are out there. Women are not as blind to what’s happening as some PUAs like to think. Every now and then you’ll get some obstacle with attitude who will say things like “Are you doing that just so you can touch her?” or “Did you do that on purpose just so we would ___”. It happens, and yet the set still continues and you still close. Why? Because some women get it (and just because they get what’s happening doesn’t mean that they don’t want it to happen). And having a woman understands how these things work as a wing-girl can open more doors than you would believe.

In summation:
- Always listen to what women have to say about men, but be sure to take it with a grain of salt and learn to read between the lines.
- Watch how AFCs interact with your female friends and how your female friends react in response and learn from it.
- Keep an eye out for that rare “aware” girl. They are learning goldmines.

Listen, learn, and always keep an open mind.

Happy sarging everyone!

Prophet

About Prophet

Prophet is a VA Coach specializing in routine stack creation who operates out of Toronto. Aside from his work as an instructor/site admin for Venusian Arts, Prophet is a software consultant at a leading software development firm. In his spare time, he finances, writes, and produces independent films with his wingmen, Showcase and Wild Card.

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